tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post1960307969274604193..comments2024-03-14T13:50:26.981-04:00Comments on Chaz's School Daze: For Teachers Who Have Been Targeted By Their Principals - Here Are TheThings Teachers Should Not Do.Chazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-60722964002290106292009-09-10T21:56:54.107-04:002009-09-10T21:56:54.107-04:00By the way, the person who I contend was bribed wi...By the way, the person who I contend was bribed with a district job was the union's EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR and had represented me in my first two hearings. "Coincidentally" she ended up working for human resources, the department whose head decided to throw me out in order to cheat me out of full retirement benefits by using trumped up charges. She took the job a little over a month before my "due process" arbitration. I ain't buying it was "coincidental."OTE adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09259422705314063194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-91703280285438349112009-09-10T21:53:12.597-04:002009-09-10T21:53:12.597-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.OTE adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09259422705314063194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-23053457145300705102009-09-10T21:44:33.904-04:002009-09-10T21:44:33.904-04:00While I support unions in theory, teachers' un...While I support unions in theory, teachers' unions really are not very effective in dealing with individual teachers in so-called "due process" hearings. It is a myth to think you have the right to "due process" before you are terminated. All they happen to be are kangaroo hearings. I went through this charade out here in Nevada, and I was not allowed witnesses, documents were altered, perjury was committed by district witnesses, a potential witness of mine was bribed with a job working for the very person who targeted me for dismissal, so she couldn't testify on my behalf, and on and on, and all of this criminality was subsidized by the taxpayers. Arbitrators get paid handsomely for their "efforts," and they are not about to rock the boat and rule in favor of the teachers. When one understands the REALITY of "due process hearings" and the fact it is so easy for teachers to be fired in this twisted system we call public education in the United States since unions are no more than subsidiaries of the school districts, then and only then can reform happen.<br /><br />I haven't read this blog very long, so I don't know if the proprietor has actually gone through these "due process" hearings jokes. I doubt they are any less corrupt than they are in Nevada and many other states.OTE adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09259422705314063194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-5243859732100825212009-09-08T18:43:10.228-04:002009-09-08T18:43:10.228-04:00Fidgity:
Under no circumstances should you talk t...Fidgity:<br /><br />Under no circumstances should you talk to SCI. Even our union recommends that. As for OSI, you have the right not to speak to them and I know a few teachers who didn't.<br /><br />If I thought OSI investigations were fair, I would agree with the union. However they are not fair and the only thing you are doing is tipping your hand for the DOE.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-73184040126787863382009-09-08T14:11:16.855-04:002009-09-08T14:11:16.855-04:00Please do not put any faith into EEOC, NYSDHR, NYC...Please do not put any faith into EEOC, NYSDHR, NYCCHR and believe that they will do anything for you. They might be different in dealing with private companies that are being complainted in civil rights violations. Why in the world do the directors of these agencies want to hurt the relationship of their potential future employers? They all move around among different agencies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-37848917385867599512009-09-08T12:45:54.432-04:002009-09-08T12:45:54.432-04:00To anon 6.56 pm:
I believe that you are allowed t...To anon 6.56 pm:<br /><br />I believe that you are allowed to pick your own psychiatrist, at least make a request to see someone you are comfortable with, DoE's shrinks suck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-60167316215540656962009-09-07T21:56:39.178-04:002009-09-07T21:56:39.178-04:00any comments (advice) with reference to principals...any comments (advice) with reference to principals sending teacher for psychological evaluations?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-28000579111346523372009-09-07T20:11:32.814-04:002009-09-07T20:11:32.814-04:00Chaz, this is a terrific post with with so much gr...Chaz, this is a terrific post with with so much great information that my head is spinning! First of all, I regret writing a response to LIF because I feel too much information was given to the principal before I knew that I was being brought up on charges. Somehow I feel that this information better prepares the principal for the 3020a by already knowing your defense. Once it is in writing, it is hard to change or improve your defense. <br /> As far as speaking with SCI, the union will require you to speak with them and even escort you into the "Lion's Den". I don't believe that you can refuse a request for a meeting by and with SCI.FidgetyTeachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13062058958826674862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-37694340108467511062009-09-07T19:38:46.840-04:002009-09-07T19:38:46.840-04:00...the members of the Senate* and Assembly Educati......the members of the Senate* and Assembly Education Committees...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-30874665781990318312009-09-07T19:36:49.638-04:002009-09-07T19:36:49.638-04:00Here is something that teachers, whether targeted,...Here is something that teachers, whether targeted, or not, <i>should</i> do, and that is:<br /><br />Try to keep the climate in Albany favorable to teachers.<br /><br />It would be a good idea to research the summaries, text, and status of the pending bills seeking amendments to the Education Law at:<br /><br />http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/<br /><br />This bill summary is interesting:<br /><br />http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=S06052<br /><br />Here's the full text of the bill:<br /><br />http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=S06052&sh=t<br /><br />Keep attuned to the proposed legislation affecting your jobs!<br /><br />Write to your State Senators, Assemblymen, and the members of the Seante and Assembly Education Committees and let them know how you feel about the proposed amendments to the Education Law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-84926368020387657852009-09-07T18:36:24.776-04:002009-09-07T18:36:24.776-04:00I agree with 99% of what is here.
If the arbitrat...I agree with 99% of what is here.<br /><br />If the arbitrators assigns a punishment when there is not a 'preponderance of evidence" against the teacher than that arbitrator is corrupt.<br /><br />Whether or not the punishment is harsher or greater or less thanor greateer than the punishment sought by DOE is another matter entirely. The punishment, by definition, causes harm. Perhaps the arbitrator can ease his or her conscience by giving lighter punishments when there is an absence of credible evidence but that in no way diminishes his or her corruption.<br /><br />Just my two cents worth of jesuitical analysis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-40771035238676659862009-09-07T18:27:17.678-04:002009-09-07T18:27:17.678-04:00I don't buy that the arbitrators are corrupt. ...I don't buy that the arbitrators are corrupt. Granted you usually are found guilty of something. However, since both the DOE and the UFT determines if the arbitrator is to stay on, the UFT has just as much power as the DOE to remove an arbitrator.<br /><br />I understand that it is tit for tat and arbitrators usually do not want to piss off either side. Therefore, few terminations and even less aquittals.<br /><br /><br />By the way, the UFT has removed an arbitrator that was too harsh to teachers and in turn the DOE retaliated by removing an arbitrator that was too friendly to the teachers. In this case it was the UFT(NYSUT) that took the lead in getting unfair arbitrators off the board.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-38555312052552962132009-09-07T15:13:42.554-04:002009-09-07T15:13:42.554-04:00It really makes no difference what you do because ...It really makes no difference what you do because the arbitrators are corrupt.<br /><br />It is their financial self interest that makes them disposed towards hurting teachers every single time.<br /><br />There is no such thing as justice and those who are corrupt are never held "accoutable".<br /><br />To be a teacher is a very dangerous position to be in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-33094630956709449262009-09-07T14:23:50.128-04:002009-09-07T14:23:50.128-04:00A teacher SHOULD NOT believe that s/he will be ass...A teacher SHOULD NOT believe that s/he will be assisted by the UFT. <br /><br />Make your UFT grievances or whatever, but simultaneously FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE EEOC—Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-26754511586564444472009-09-07T13:04:59.071-04:002009-09-07T13:04:59.071-04:00Here is my advice for all.
Keep all memoranda all ...Here is my advice for all.<br />Keep all memoranda all letters all summoned to office letters. File everything away. You may choose to do this periodically and keep them in chronological order. Keep a diary and email your reflections to yourself for dates. I have taped all meetings and always try to have the union representative there. Interestingly enough I have had push back regarding that. Its those meetings you must avoid or tape. They want to say something stupid to you then. Document every incidence of abuse against students, staff, and children as evidence of the climate of the school if its hostile. Note down all convos especially those in the hallway or outside of your door. Note down the invasions of your classroom, especialyl if they are dramatic and involve door slamming. The RULE is CYA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-33926204244538031472009-09-06T16:57:51.070-04:002009-09-06T16:57:51.070-04:00Anon 10:43
You are correct. Only SCI has the pow...Anon 10:43<br /><br />You are correct. Only SCI has the power to do what Justice wrote about, except the DOE can supeona witnesses for the 3020-a hearing.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-48524924705650947302009-09-06T13:43:46.428-04:002009-09-06T13:43:46.428-04:00It is my understanding that only SCI has those pow...It is my understanding that only SCI has those powers as Justice no Just us described.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-19925804669329536922009-09-06T13:07:36.381-04:002009-09-06T13:07:36.381-04:00Prepare yourself mentally and strengthen yourself ...Prepare yourself mentally and strengthen yourself physically for both investigative offices to come after you with both barrels blazing.<br /><br />They can an will supeoned(spelling) records such as college transcripts, they can will question neighbors about your character, they can and will look into your phone records, they can and will ask for your lap top and or desk top and finally they can and will come to your door step.<br /> <br />One more thing" Your principal can send you for a psychological evaluation.<br /><br />These people are not playing around and neither should you!JUSTICE not "just us"https://www.blogger.com/profile/05502604957951804040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-7396445862629924962009-09-06T09:25:57.996-04:002009-09-06T09:25:57.996-04:00Chaz
Your readers may not know that the teacher g...Chaz<br /><br />Your readers may not know that the teacher gets the last word in a Letter in File. In other words, the principal cannot respond in writing to the teachers response to the Letter in File (without the teacher counter responding).<br /><br />Always respond fully and with a future 3020a in mind to a LIF. Attach anything and everything that shows you are a great teacher etc etc. There is no limit to the size of the response and (without giving away any future 3020a defense) take advantage of that.<br /><br />Emailing other material to yourself in the form of a journal (a la Mr talk) is also not a bad idea if you suspect you are being steered/pushed towards eventual 3020a.<br /><br />Have a trusted and very experienced colleague observe several lessons and write them up in glowing terms. Without your principals knowledge. Evidence of pedagogical collaboration (a good thing)and outstanding teaching and this will intrigue an arbitrator. Of course it takes a brave friend.<br /><br />And of course a very special thumb or flash drive with a very innocuous appearance:<br /><br />http://www.spy-tronix.com/keychainrecorder.html<br /><br />RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-91268214109298410092009-09-06T08:57:33.886-04:002009-09-06T08:57:33.886-04:00When I was being targeted, I kept a journal as wel...When I was being targeted, I kept a journal as well, which I emailed myself periodically so that it would have a date stamp that could not be contested. In that way, if it ever got to 3020, I would prove that I wasn't making anything up just for the hearing. <br /><br />Luckily, it never got to a hearing as I found a better school. But I still have the notes and I'll blog them one day, along with the names of the admins, before I retire.Mr. Talkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239113469882849506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-57238745581389828432009-09-05T23:43:46.713-04:002009-09-05T23:43:46.713-04:00I have heard that also. However, if you respond t...I have heard that also. However, if you respond to the LIF before you are brought up on charges, it looks better to the arbitrator that you actually objected to the letter.<br /><br />I know people who did not file a response to the LIF and the arbitrators questioned why they are objecting to the LIF at the hearing.<br /><br />It would seem to me that posting a response with the 3020-a discipline process in mind would be the preferred action.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-49457842644234868052009-09-05T23:02:21.300-04:002009-09-05T23:02:21.300-04:00I've been advised it's better not to respo...I've been advised it's better not to respond to a letter in file--rather, write the response and save it in case you are brought up in charges. Otherwise, this person said, the response would be regarded as a done deal and have no bearing on the proceedings.<br /><br />I'm not certain whether or not it's good advice, but that's what I was told.NYC Educatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188066345722781723noreply@blogger.com