tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post3106327152904143833..comments2024-03-14T13:50:26.981-04:00Comments on Chaz's School Daze: The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly Of The Proposed Contract.Chazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-9727475587356862882014-05-24T07:19:35.518-04:002014-05-24T07:19:35.518-04:00This is why I'm starting an admin program next...This is why I'm starting an admin program next week. As teachers, we have no rights. The union is weak. This is the only way I'll be able to still have a job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-57243348879508535122014-05-20T07:49:55.813-04:002014-05-20T07:49:55.813-04:00Mulgrew, on yesterday's web Q and A, when aske...Mulgrew, on yesterday's web Q and A, when asked about the ATRs said we were unfairly stereotyped as bad teachers. Then went on to say we will be placed. Then added" teaching is a difficult profession and we're here to help those find a way out into another profession"!<br />I guess only ATRs are going to get that "help".Another 53 year old ATRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-38397481157067279922014-05-19T19:12:06.242-04:002014-05-19T19:12:06.242-04:00No givebacks? How is a two-tier due process system...No givebacks? How is a two-tier due process system that targets ATRs not a giveback?NYC Educatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12188066345722781723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-90280679916992413182014-05-19T10:03:04.090-04:002014-05-19T10:03:04.090-04:00Anon. 1:34 must be teaching 3 years and thinks tha...Anon. 1:34 must be teaching 3 years and thinks that he/she will never be an ATR. Ha!!!! What if your building becomes a co-location? Ha!!! You're naive and haven't been around long enough to know how unfair this contract is. Why do you get a different set of rules than an ATR? We have the same union, the same credentials to be hired.....so now not the same to be fired? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-24119303328421115532014-05-19T08:47:10.537-04:002014-05-19T08:47:10.537-04:00Anon 10:40
Too bad most principals don't seem...Anon 10:40<br /><br />Too bad most principals don't seem to care about the students and that's why people like me are being wasted in this useless rotation.<br /><br /><br />If your school is in Queens and you need a superior Earth Science teacher, then contact me on my email that's listed on my blog.<br /><br /><br />By the way if you read enough you will see who I am. I don't hide behind "chaz" its just my blogger nameChazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-24213218310602925592014-05-18T22:40:52.162-04:002014-05-18T22:40:52.162-04:00I was directed to this site by one of my teachers....I was directed to this site by one of my teachers. We have a great relationship so if she's reading this, she will know who I am. I'm assuming the individual Chaz is responsible for this blog as I have just read through some of the articles. Entertaining and informative, yet somewhat shocking to read, especially for a principal like myself. Feels nice to write with anonymity. One thing I can truly say is that I made a terrible mistake this year. I hired plenty of first time teachers and inexperienced teachers to say the least. By January, one had left. By April, two more resigned for a total of three. One more is unfit and another will certainly not be coming back. Over the summer I will seek to hire seasoned teachers, not worrying about the price tag. I'd rather have the experience. Good luck to all and best wishes. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-66617965544770279172014-05-18T21:59:57.994-04:002014-05-18T21:59:57.994-04:00Isn't the in service thing always part of the ...Isn't the in service thing always part of the contract? I remember last time my friend did not get money because she wasn't on payroll in September.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-13576265157456824522014-05-18T21:04:07.992-04:002014-05-18T21:04:07.992-04:00Sad to think, but Mulgrew actually said at the del...<br />Sad to think, but Mulgrew actually said at the delegate assembly that ATRs will benefit from this contract because they'll get speedy 3020A trials.......? Howie Schoor said the same thing a week later.<br /><br />No more languishing around in the rubber room, from accusation to unemployment in a matter of days, but only for ATRs.<br /><br />If you're not an ATR today, you will be! Vote NO!<br /><br /><br /><br />What a maroon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-63627936407408168972014-05-18T20:56:31.361-04:002014-05-18T20:56:31.361-04:00To Anonymous @ 1:34 pm:
No givebacks?
The cont...To Anonymous @ 1:34 pm:<br /><br />No givebacks? <br /><br />The contract is allowing expedited 3020A proceedings against ATRs! From accusation to termination in 30 days! Why is our union setting them up?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-40680430824684581352014-05-18T20:29:14.942-04:002014-05-18T20:29:14.942-04:00To 134,
Are you paid by our union to go to every b...To 134,<br />Are you paid by our union to go to every blog and advertise this contract? Without interest the only thing that can be compounded is a fracture, which is what will happen to our union. There will be 3 separate groups. 1 group will have more rights than the other 2 groups. In what universe is this not a give back? There is not one good thing in this contract. You can capitalize every letter and that doesn't change the facts.Another 53 year old ATRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-59856441810460750762014-05-18T16:21:16.530-04:002014-05-18T16:21:16.530-04:00There's a few interesting comments in here tha...There's a few interesting comments in here that make sense. I'm not one for revenge, but it's clear that if people making 6 figures supporting their families and have 10 years to go till even thinking about retiring, somehow get "released"?? Wow, look out administrator X!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-24347193761181043072014-05-18T16:18:37.491-04:002014-05-18T16:18:37.491-04:00ANON 12:26 GOOD POINT
I would never look down at ...ANON 12:26 GOOD POINT<br />I would never look down at sanitation workers, police officers or those working at the fire department.However, can someone explain how those city workers have more rights and protections than a NYC teacher ???<br />I can explain it OUR UNION SUCKS PERIOD.I am tired of all the bullsht from the media and politicians on how valuable teachers are and then in the next sentence HOW overpaid and underworked we are..look at the facts.... in the teaching profession as soon as you get close to top salary you are seen as INEFFECTIVE or better suited to be an ATR..the DOE and our useless UNION treat ATRs similar to when older folks are placed in nursing homes waiting to die..YES the ATR pool has become the nursing home for teachers who are not ready to die ...thank your union...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-15137852115483475312014-05-18T15:48:31.963-04:002014-05-18T15:48:31.963-04:00lmaooo I agree with you Anonymous 12:26! lmaooo I agree with you Anonymous 12:26! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-84655558706769310582014-05-18T14:53:08.193-04:002014-05-18T14:53:08.193-04:00Chaz, we do not get the retro owed to us, if we ch...Chaz, we do not get the retro owed to us, if we choose to quit, move, get terminated, etc...That is not guaranteed. How is it possible, if we do any of those things, we don't get the money we already worked for? We have to be in service at time of payout. Also, notice per session got 0 in 09, 10, 11, 12, and then only got 40 cents in 13 and 14. JJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-61752442073478510352014-05-18T13:44:31.334-04:002014-05-18T13:44:31.334-04:00@12:26. If that's what is comes down to, so be...@12:26. If that's what is comes down to, so be it. I will tell you one thing. I wouldn't want to be the principal who signs off for a teacher to lose his or her job. I wouldn't be able to sleep. It's way to easy to seek revenge and at that point what would really matter if you're career is taken from you? These administrators better play this little game smart. There's no shortage of crazed people. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-9750404330184740262014-05-18T13:34:47.310-04:002014-05-18T13:34:47.310-04:00THIS IS A GOOD AND FAIR CONTRACT. A 19.5% RAISE C...THIS IS A GOOD AND FAIR CONTRACT. A 19.5% RAISE COMPOUNDED WITHIN 4 YEARS!! FULL RETRO! TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO MOST MEMBERS! (Mr. Hiller's numbers ARE NOT verified)... NO- GIVE-BACKS! IT'S ACTUALLY PRETTY GREAT! <br /><br />VOTE YES!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-56342082262719015112014-05-18T13:10:37.392-04:002014-05-18T13:10:37.392-04:00Our only hope is to vote no on this contract.
The...<br />Our only hope is to vote no on this contract.<br /><br />The raise isn't what it appears<br /><br />ATRs will be railroaded into sham 3020A hearings<br /><br />Throw out Unity shills.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-80976175086353809052014-05-18T12:26:04.618-04:002014-05-18T12:26:04.618-04:00A total set up to dump teachers who are part if a ...A total set up to dump teachers who are part if a "union". No other union would allow their members to be pushed out. Can you see sanitation workers being forced to retire or set up as their route closes and can't go to another route, becoming an ATR sanitation worker? What the hell is going on here? I'm not an ATR but I have about 17 years in. I will be making that top pay one day soon. What happens when I'm actually at 120K per year? A principal is going to take me? And if not, I get released if 2 bozos say I acted weird? I lose it all at that point? Is this correct? I'm supposed to vote yes to this? I have a wife, 3 children, a mortgage, etc like most of you. I wanna see the principal who signs off for me to lose it all. I'd like to see the look on his/her face when I type their name into Google and find their address and show up. It's going to get REAL UGLY!!! This is no joke, things can get outta hand. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-64025804203051938262014-05-18T12:25:14.095-04:002014-05-18T12:25:14.095-04:00And let's not forget the fugly abandonment of ...And let's not forget the fugly abandonment of members to the corruption of OSI and SCI investigators. The UFT allows these gumshoes to frame teachers. Then NYSUT lawyers frequently cave during 3020-a hearings and NEVER follow up with perjury complaints against lying principals and witnesses, thus allowing the DOE to continue their malicious prosecutions. Sadly, MORE, ICE, and other activists look the other way as well. Philip Nobilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01056036270116730837noreply@blogger.com