tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post4183526256240531483..comments2024-03-14T13:50:26.981-04:00Comments on Chaz's School Daze: A Tale Of Two Teachers Who Went To A Hiring Hall And Why The ATR Crises Is Just Getting Worse For Senior Teachers.Chazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-64622266841566837392011-09-16T09:57:35.817-04:002011-09-16T09:57:35.817-04:00Senior teachers are also usually the teachers crea...Senior teachers are also usually the teachers creating issues and stirring things up.<br /><br />If I were a principal I would hire the junior teacher who just stay quite and do their job.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-36271639043345866742011-09-15T20:24:44.898-04:002011-09-15T20:24:44.898-04:00The issue of age and salary go hand to hand in thi...The issue of age and salary go hand to hand in this case since senior teachers make the most money. To state it is simply a financial issue is incorrect. Even when the DOE gave principals an incentive to hire ATRs, few did. As Pissed Off pointed out it is also about control and senior teachers usually know their rights.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-24039404024908778852011-09-15T13:47:31.779-04:002011-09-15T13:47:31.779-04:00There is age discrimination. First it was the &qu...There is age discrimination. First it was the "rubber room" teachers who were mostly in their 50s. Now it is the senior ATRs who are not offered interviews or jobs. Yes, it is about the money but it is also about ageism. To pretend otherwise is just dishonest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-71767253145488346032011-09-15T13:33:19.065-04:002011-09-15T13:33:19.065-04:00Anon 11:20
You are right. However, what I believ...Anon 11:20<br /><br />You are right. However, what I believe chaz is saying is that the DOE is not actually practicing what they preach, which is children first. <br /><br />I think what chaz is illistrating is that unless the DOE and union offer some financial incentives when hiring the ATRs, principals will be unable and unwilling to hire the best teachers for their schools.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-14257417740225412362011-09-15T11:20:47.294-04:002011-09-15T11:20:47.294-04:00Chaz,
My issue is what you are saying is that you...Chaz,<br /><br />My issue is what you are saying is that you believe this is age discrimination, and this simply isn’t the case. This is salary discrimination and the principals have no choice but to act in this fashion.<br /><br />If you were a principle and you only had $60K of your budget remaining to hire a teacher, you aren't in a position to hire a $90K teacher. If the Union allowed the “Master Teacher” to take a salary of $50K I am sure he would be hired immediately.<br /><br />If you were a principle and you had $270K of your budget remaining to hire teachers, do you fire 5 teachers at $50K each or 3 teachers at $90K each? I know which I would choose.<br /><br />The principals are not trying to screw the more experienced ATRs but their budgets have given them no choice but to hire lower salary teachers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-88811903201022190192011-09-14T21:16:30.002-04:002011-09-14T21:16:30.002-04:00The job fair yesterday....mandatory for all ATRs i...The job fair yesterday....mandatory for all ATRs in the Bx and Man.....1,000 or so Teachers in attendance and 30-40 schools? Another 30 were no-shows. Perhaps three vacancies at each school...so, one in ten may get a position. Eliminate those at the higher salaries. I'm taking up Stoicism.Rodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13295844185425383711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-34409329846731458482011-09-14T20:41:23.165-04:002011-09-14T20:41:23.165-04:00Money is a big factor but don't discount obedi...Money is a big factor but don't discount obedience. The new ones will jump through every hoop, no matter how high, to make points with admins.Pissedoffteacherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07924089808582137198noreply@blogger.com