tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post5845703414597934956..comments2024-03-14T13:50:26.981-04:00Comments on Chaz's School Daze: The DOE's Open Market Transfer System Is Simply A Joke As Few, If Any, Senior Teachers Are Hired And Most Don't Even Get Interviews.Chazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-68225933157139127582015-08-16T16:03:51.463-04:002015-08-16T16:03:51.463-04:00I teach in a shortage area for the NYCDOE. Recentl...I teach in a shortage area for the NYCDOE. Recently, our entire school must relocate to another site while repairs are made on our building. At least, half of our staff said they were going to try the open market to get new jobs as the relocation site is so far away.<br />It was to my dismay that I must report that you are correct in your evaluation of the Open Market System. It simply does not work for senior teachers and the "newbies" or "fellows" had not trouble finding a position elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-60141786016697276052013-08-09T07:27:04.521-04:002013-08-09T07:27:04.521-04:00The whole system is corrupted. Four years ago I ap...The whole system is corrupted. Four years ago I applied for School Social work job they claimed there was none available. They offer a sub-Para job until vaccines open. Four years later, I still trying, I receive an offer but told I can’t transfer because I am in Para line and not social work line. Yet I am seeing people who Para was being promoted to teachers in new line. I have seen social work job post in the new teacher’s finder, with notes not to apply because they already have their candidate and only post so the person can apply. May God help all of them!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-74051979438647603952013-08-09T07:25:13.802-04:002013-08-09T07:25:13.802-04:00The whole system is corrupted. Four years ago I ap...The whole system is corrupted. Four years ago I applied for School Social work job they claimed there was none available. They offer a sub-Para job until vaccines open. Four years later, I still trying, I receive an offer but told I can’t transfer because I am in Para line and not social work line. Yet I am seeing people who Para was being promoted to teachers in new line. I have seen social work job post in the new teacher’s finder, with notes not to apply because they already have their candidate and only post so the person can apply. May God help all of them!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-73072028349042487512011-08-16T16:06:42.973-04:002011-08-16T16:06:42.973-04:00does anyone know about the service history that pr...does anyone know about the service history that principals are able to generate about the backgrounds of teachers? it is a bit different from the ones that we as teachers have access to. for instance if you were in the rubber room, it states that your were suspended with pay. it is very demeaning. i had a teacher call me in tears saying that she would never be able to get out of the ATR pool since this history is available to principals. I agree with her. last year, i followed all the protocoals, went to all the job fairs and i teach chemistry. i got nothing. this year, i refused, because the DOE and union thinks so little of us that they don't even give a calender as to the dates of the job fairs. they just email you a week or so before the fair and expect that u must be available at such short notice in the summer. this is a joke but I am hardly laughing.betruetothyselfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15431929149020671197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-86225401193075512932011-08-09T07:59:01.557-04:002011-08-09T07:59:01.557-04:00Last year I was in danger of being excessed. Mind...Last year I was in danger of being excessed. Mind you, I'm an experienced ESL teacher - you would think I'd have no trouble finding a job. I applied to every open position but received not one interview. For some reason, I was not excessed and ended up back at my old school. I have no idea why I was not excessed but let me tell you, I was lucky. Had I ended up in the ATR pool, I know I would have never gotten out of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-6452672801280764592011-08-08T12:21:51.970-04:002011-08-08T12:21:51.970-04:00I went to 2 job fairs, contacted one of the princi...I went to 2 job fairs, contacted one of the principals I spoke to there, and applied to 80+ schools online. I didn't realize it was that many until I counted them. AND, Nothing. Really??? <br /><br />It would be disheartening but I am starting to not care anymore.<br /><br />It seems the union isn't backing the ATR's. I can only hope the principals will be somewhat courteous to the ATR-SUBS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-77567169049749354512011-08-08T09:36:39.725-04:002011-08-08T09:36:39.725-04:00That was probably the reason wny a group of teache...That was probably the reason wny a group of teachers (Teachers4action) sued and listed both DOE and UFT as co-defendants, but they got slaughtered. How can someone kill two elephants (DOE and UFT) with one shotgun bullet?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-55812718969326943912011-08-07T19:21:05.568-04:002011-08-07T19:21:05.568-04:00I agree with anon 7:15 if the UFT refuses to file ...I agree with anon 7:15 if the UFT refuses to file an age discrimination lawsuit, the courts will not entertain such a class action lawsuit from the eachers.<br /><br />If you remember the UFT was set to file such a lawsuit until they dropped it for the first ATR agreement which the DOE refused to abide by.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-2837356763709698492011-08-07T19:15:12.895-04:002011-08-07T19:15:12.895-04:00Constructive discharge is an interesting idea. A s...Constructive discharge is an interesting idea. A senior teacher who does not belong to a union probably would have a better legal ground on the constructive discharge complaint, but when you have the "backing" of a union, it is hard to say how a court will look at the complaint? What about administrative remedy? The judge may ask why not first to complaint by his or her union first? If your own union does not believe it the constructive discharge, then you will have a hard time to convince the court.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-86874228770559035212011-08-07T19:15:03.727-04:002011-08-07T19:15:03.727-04:00Constructive discharge is an interesting idea. A s...Constructive discharge is an interesting idea. A senior teacher who does not belong to a union probably would have a better legal ground on the constructive discharge complaint, but when you have the "backing" of a union, it is hard to say how a court will look at the complaint? What about administrative remedy? The judge may ask why not first to complaint by his or her union first? If your own union does not believe it the constructive discharge, then you will have a hard time to convince the court.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-91248861244083835112011-08-07T18:46:54.247-04:002011-08-07T18:46:54.247-04:00I am not suprised by anything anymore.
The abuse...I am not suprised by anything anymore. <br /><br />The abuse will continue and escalate. When senior teachers are glorified subs and sent to a different school, it will be much clearer. <br /><br />This is disparate treatment and constructive discharge. <br /><br />It is well past the time the pricks at the union should have done something. <br /><br />It is time for a class action suit.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Angry NogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-42275187651198485352011-08-07T17:05:11.227-04:002011-08-07T17:05:11.227-04:00DOE has never intended to carry out any agreement ...DOE has never intended to carry out any agreement that hinders and hampers the unbridled power of a building principal. All there agreements do are to provide some political cover for UFT leadership, DOE knew it, so did UFT.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-38803887958650252322011-08-07T16:28:25.089-04:002011-08-07T16:28:25.089-04:00Very true.Very true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com