tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post6786137890915037816..comments2024-03-14T13:50:26.981-04:00Comments on Chaz's School Daze: My Best Guess On What The Retroactive Raises For UFT Members Will Be.Chazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-66945014780422367862013-06-24T20:17:49.673-04:002013-06-24T20:17:49.673-04:0017.6 in four or 13.6 over 7. You don't have a ...17.6 in four or 13.6 over 7. You don't have a prayer Chaz. Mulgrew let tier 6 get passed last year. My money is on anon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-11823625077719390532013-06-24T19:45:45.078-04:002013-06-24T19:45:45.078-04:00I beg to differ with you. The triple zeros are un...I beg to differ with you. The triple zeros are unrealistic, no matter how you put it together. Additionally, the future budget deficits are a farce and only exist in the Mayor's demented mind. Every year there is a projected deficit and every year it ends up as a surplus.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-36793404340815858722013-06-24T16:52:26.113-04:002013-06-24T16:52:26.113-04:00To paraphrase Sandy Feldman in 1995 when we got ze...To paraphrase Sandy Feldman in 1995 when we got zeros in the middle of the .com boom, if you think we can do better, you must be smoking something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-60191621965715106302013-06-24T16:49:27.326-04:002013-06-24T16:49:27.326-04:00I just did the math. It's 13.6% over seven ye...I just did the math. It's 13.6% over seven years with the three zeros. 4+4+0+0+0+3+2. It fits in with what other surrounding area teacher unions have been getting since 2008 and I know it will fly with the teachers. Mulgrew could set the pattern. Read today's Times on the budget deal and it shows you the out-year budget gap soaring. You came up with over 17% for just four years and I have it at 13.6% over seven. Who will be closer? All I can say is I like Chinese and Italian food.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-47859681227416989182013-06-24T16:47:18.330-04:002013-06-24T16:47:18.330-04:00Anon 4:37
The trip[le zeros was when the City was...Anon 4:37<br /><br />The trip[le zeros was when the City was in dire financial problems plus there was a payoff to the leader of DC37. Neither is true today.<br /><br />As for 2003. Randi sold us out when DC37 took an inferior contract. I highly doubt that will happen now.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-30294411744002962592013-06-24T16:37:46.796-04:002013-06-24T16:37:46.796-04:00If they spread out the last pattern so that there ...If they spread out the last pattern so that there are no zeros, it's the same thing. Unions won't accept zeros. Where were you in 1995 and 2003? you will be buying me a nice dinner Chaz.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-74384292079345031572013-06-24T14:45:55.724-04:002013-06-24T14:45:55.724-04:00If your analysis is correct, would there also be a...If your analysis is correct, would there also be a retroactive lump sum to anticipate?History Tuneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06449281751907120020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-81861597549070948612013-06-24T14:29:57.865-04:002013-06-24T14:29:57.865-04:00chaz:
I think the last two years are too generous...chaz:<br /><br />I think the last two years are too generous. I think a 3-4% raise is more realistic. Maybe 5% for three years is possible. However, none of the unions will accept the triple zeros the State unions gave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-83028802419856982402013-06-23T19:19:10.746-04:002013-06-23T19:19:10.746-04:00I don't think a triple zero phenomena is real....I don't think a triple zero phenomena is real. Maybe a combination of 1%, 2% or maybe 5-6% for three years are more realistic.<br /><br />I'll take your bet. Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-33460650802139283792013-06-23T19:04:08.797-04:002013-06-23T19:04:08.797-04:00I cannot argue with you about the 4+4. After that,...I cannot argue with you about the 4+4. After that, I want you to be right but I have been around too long to think that is how it will turn out. Let's place a friendly wager on your scenario vs mine. I will bet a dinner that mine is closer to what we get: three zeros after the 4+4.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-14823507177332310392013-06-23T18:47:03.060-04:002013-06-23T18:47:03.060-04:00I really hope you are right - but you know there a...I really hope you are right - but you know there are going to be giveback = next up school from 7:30-4:30 and a a school year that ends somewhere around July 31Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-41697856174234992302013-06-23T18:01:18.099-04:002013-06-23T18:01:18.099-04:00The federal employee unions are non-existent and h...The federal employee unions are non-existent and have no real political power unlike us.<br /><br />While I may be an optimist, we will be getting the retroactive raises for the 2009-10 contract since that is the "City pattern". The rest?????? Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-19640231428919309162013-06-23T15:50:02.326-04:002013-06-23T15:50:02.326-04:00By the way look at the federal patterns too. They ...By the way look at the federal patterns too. They aren't getting raises either. Mulgrew and Thompson are going to lead us to the promised land? OKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-63714326421934068402013-06-23T15:46:40.552-04:002013-06-23T15:46:40.552-04:00The pattern is set for 2009-10 and 2010-11. I ack...The pattern is set for 2009-10 and 2010-11. I acknowledged that. Read the first lines in my first comment. <br /><br />Here is what will probably happen: When the new mayor is in office, he or she will look at the books and discover a humongous budget gap with no end in site. It will be much worse than the state situation. Watch how the money will disappear to allow them to make the new pattern of three zeros to match the state. <br /><br />Saying the unions are much stronger in the city is the funniest line of the century. Yeah the UFT and DC 37 have so much power. I see that at school each day. NOT!<br /><br />And you know the teachers might set that triple zero pattern if whoever the new mayor gives the 4+4 from the first contract and throws in some sweeteners. Think about it, if it is settled in the middle of 2014 and we get the 4+4 right away, teachers will jump at it and the three years with no raise will just be ending in May of 2014. In September there would be 3% and the following year 2%. It would get about 94% of the vote.<br /><br />I like your blog Chaz and my bank account would certainly like for you to be right but I can't agree with your analysis on this one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-91976401102528228932013-06-23T13:40:54.337-04:002013-06-23T13:40:54.337-04:00We can see how strong the union has been during th...We can see how strong the union has been during the last twelve years. If there is a raise it will be for even more damaging givebacks.<br />Cheers.<br />Angry NogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-26737891183843139772013-06-23T13:36:47.865-04:002013-06-23T13:36:47.865-04:00Chaz,
Get analysis of salary raise based on prior...Chaz,<br /><br />Get analysis of salary raise based on prior pattern bargaining and set pattern rate.<br /><br />However, I remember when Sandy Feldman and the law firm (Randi worked in as a Labor Relation lawyer) negotiated with the city a 5 year contract where it contained two years of zero-zero raise and I think we had to defer one of the retroactive pay. <br /><br />I truly hope that your analysis is on target because teachers deserve that raise and no givebacks. However, I wouldn't mind if the 37.5 minutes of extended time can be rolled into the time schedule as 6 hours and 50 minutes and the professional activity should be just one a week and the remaining days as a 2nd prep period. With the demands of CCCS and the Danielson, teachers deserve 9 prep periods a week.I noticed that...noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-34092831930243930982013-06-23T13:08:35.368-04:002013-06-23T13:08:35.368-04:00Anon 11:23
You are the dreamer!
First, the 2009-...Anon 11:23<br /><br />You are the dreamer!<br /><br />First, the 2009-10 has a pattern set.<br /><br />Second, the City is in much better financial shape than the State.<br /><br />Finally, the City unions are much stronger than the State unions and the democratic winner will be beholden to those unions.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-39467981925875260262013-06-23T11:23:42.280-04:002013-06-23T11:23:42.280-04:00Dream on. The state pattern is triple zeros. I a...Dream on. The state pattern is triple zeros. I agree we get the two 4% raises but after that, you are in la la land. Even John Liu isn't coming up with that kind of money. I like the fact that you are certainly raising expectations. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com