tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post874543545410953794..comments2024-03-14T13:50:26.981-04:00Comments on Chaz's School Daze: The Disconnect Between The Graduation Rate And The College Readiness Rate - 2018Chazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-52599458040649893722019-02-04T06:27:57.814-05:002019-02-04T06:27:57.814-05:00How is the college and career percent achieved? I...How is the college and career percent achieved? I think these numbers are inflated, also. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-44557131956510651382019-02-03T22:12:49.537-05:002019-02-03T22:12:49.537-05:00I would like to point out specifically Maspeth hs ...I would like to point out specifically Maspeth hs which has stellar numbers. As someone who worked there teachers are NOT allowed to fail any student. A good chunk of kids have IEPs and a third of the school follows the ICT model. Don’t be fooled by the 98% graduation rate. It’s all lies. We were threatened if we dared to fail any student, especially if they had an IEP. <br /><br />I suspect the same may be true for some of the other schools on the list. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-38394398091736349302019-02-03T19:25:23.996-05:002019-02-03T19:25:23.996-05:00Those college ready numbers are the ones that corr...Those college ready numbers are the ones that correlate most closely to the zip codes. So let's look at what happens to the kids who are not college ready. About half should graduate - way under this, and the school may be ignoring it's weakest performers - way over this and the school may fall into the "mill" category. Let me try this for your schools in Queens, and again in the Bronx, and see if the results make sense.<br /><br />JonathanJonathan Halabihttp://jd2718.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-24438647445074999952019-02-03T18:58:53.500-05:002019-02-03T18:58:53.500-05:00Jonathan
My metric is not fool proof but it does ...Jonathan<br /><br />My metric is not fool proof but it does allow parents to visualize schools that encourage students to achieve their goals, be it college or a high paying job.<br /><br />I'm open to suggestions for a better metric that is not based on a complex mathematical equation.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-63579942502223073662019-02-03T18:25:09.508-05:002019-02-03T18:25:09.508-05:00I'm concerned that your metric makes School A ...I'm concerned that your metric makes School A with an 80% graduation rate and a 75% college readiness rate a better school than School B with an 85% graduation rate and a 65% college readiness rate. School B clearly does something with the kids who they could not get up to "college ready" - School A seems to kick them to the curb.<br /><br />If there were a school on this list that was aiming for "graduate, not college ready" instead of "graduate, college ready" as its primary goal, that would be worth calling out. <br /><br />Otherwise you probably just have a list reverse-ranked by income.<br /><br />JonathanJonathan Halabihttp://jd2718.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-11883939659043357222019-02-03T14:48:01.358-05:002019-02-03T14:48:01.358-05:00hey 10:34
Who's fault is it that these studen...hey 10:34<br /><br />Who's fault is it that these students are not academically proficient?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-40763586538663735092019-02-03T10:51:37.051-05:002019-02-03T10:51:37.051-05:00Chaz, I agree with you. I am a high school teache...Chaz, I agree with you. I am a high school teacher in a failing school and am appalled by the lack of skills the students of the school have.<br /><br />My school is a majority Black school with most of the students native to this country. the blame for their lack of skills can be blamed on the parents and the elementary schools who both fail in their mission to educate the children. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-1537579442592420002019-02-03T10:46:30.595-05:002019-02-03T10:46:30.595-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-86327732464056712712019-02-03T09:59:00.084-05:002019-02-03T09:59:00.084-05:00Anon 10:34
Who's faun is it that these studen...Anon 10:34<br /><br />Who's faun is it that these students who have elementary school skills are expected to do high school work?<br /><br />That's why social promotion does not work since the blame lies with the school administrators and teachers at the lower grades. <br /><br />The bottom line is that who ever are the blame, the students are not prepared for college or careers. Just ask any business who will tell you that many of them cannot fill out a job application or do simple Math.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-74529727881690584612019-02-02T22:34:25.535-05:002019-02-02T22:34:25.535-05:00Chaz, who the hell do you think you are to call my...Chaz, who the hell do you think you are to call my school an academic fraud. You are implying that I and other teachers are not doing our jobs. I put hours of work in trying to move our students who come in at 3rd and 4th grade reading levels. WE work our butts off to move them a few grade levels within the four year window, which is a miracle and success in itself. Yet you sit on your high horse and tell me my hard work amounts to academic fraud because they didn't get a 70-75 on the Math/ELA regents. F--k you Chaz! Always pointing fingers, as if you could do better yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-39347315065348136582019-02-02T16:12:50.863-05:002019-02-02T16:12:50.863-05:00The biggest scam is the Queens HS for Teaching. T...The biggest scam is the Queens HS for Teaching. The school has two way mirrors in the classrooms and no one will tell an ATR about them......no shit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-62084183055938273352019-02-02T05:36:38.016-05:002019-02-02T05:36:38.016-05:00Good comparison. Not to get too technical, but one...Good comparison. Not to get too technical, but one other important number is what % of the kids graduating are special ed. A school with a high % of special ed kids in the graduating cohort could have a high grad rate (due to all the new appeals and waivers for special ed students) but few of them will get the 70+ on a math regents or 75+ on the english regents because they refuse to retest once they got their safety net (55-64) or compensatory (45-54) score and so never get college ready status. Many of the parents of these kids refuse to have the kid retest due to "stress" when its really they don't want to deal with the kid screaming.<br />Another important number the DOE ignores is the number of kids in the grad cohort for a school. Some schools have 900+ kids to graduate, some of less than 90. The smaller the school is the more likely it gets 100% FSF and additional funding. The big guys you mentioned like Francis Lewis and Bayside are at the bottom of the funding ladder.<br />Great blog-read you every day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com