tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post499845895117637828..comments2024-03-14T13:50:26.981-04:00Comments on Chaz's School Daze: My Suggestion On How To Use A Simple "Value Added Formula" That Would Work For Teachers Who Are Teaching NYS Regents Subjects.Chazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-3917451613274949262012-03-03T16:33:53.619-05:002012-03-03T16:33:53.619-05:00"Sanity is not statistical"-George Orwel..."Sanity is not statistical"-George OrwellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-4903637899245935642012-03-03T14:31:14.912-05:002012-03-03T14:31:14.912-05:00anon:
You are missing the point. If we are to ha...anon:<br /><br />You are missing the point. If we are to have a "teacher evaluation system" you need to make sure it is fair and accurate. Do you really think the DOE will develop one that is fair or accurate? Sticking your hand in the sand and hoping that the "teacher evaluation system" will disappear is really wishful thinking.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-55150449871465977112012-03-03T14:01:22.917-05:002012-03-03T14:01:22.917-05:00Chaz
The moment you suggest improvements to the &...Chaz<br /><br />The moment you suggest improvements to the 'value added model' is the moment you suggest there is any validity to ANY 'value added model".<br />Separate and apart from the 'value added' junk science is the equally misguided notion that the Regents exam is a valid test of teacher effectiveness - heck it is not even a valid measure of student learning! Thus we have two fatal flaws in any 'value added' model utilizing state exams. <br />For once I strongly disagree with you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-85737873775854412122012-03-03T10:37:33.473-05:002012-03-03T10:37:33.473-05:00Fiursdt, let me be clear. I do not believe any &q...Fiursdt, let me be clear. I do not believe any "teacher evaluation procedure" will be fair and should not be implemented. However,assuming one is implemented, it seems some of the comments question the use of a Regents baseline and I do admit there are issues in using this approach. I would like to point out that I do not for a minute believe that the DOE will come up with a fair evaluation procedure and certainly not assume that the incoming students will know nothing as a baseline.<br /><br />Until somebody comes up with a fair evaluation method that is more accurate, I will stick to my proposal.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-51152165709880372022012-03-03T08:09:07.230-05:002012-03-03T08:09:07.230-05:00Sorry Chaz while I agree with a lot of the sentime...Sorry Chaz while I agree with a lot of the sentiment expressed in the comments I have to add that using a prior Regents exam as a baseline makes no sense. If the course was cummulative that might make a little sense but Regents courses generally teach fairly new concepts. How would you grade a social studies essay if the students on their baseline exams never learned the basics of essay writing or most of the content necessary to write an essay. A physics baseline exam is a real joke. Using your logic it would make better sense to start everyone off with "assume no knowledge" baseline and improvement based on the final regents score. Of course this assumes that the regents is an accurate measure for teacher evaluation....which it is not. You need to send this suggestion back wherever it came from.Jeff Kaufmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11728874415155394751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-37301395509762455612012-03-03T01:12:33.865-05:002012-03-03T01:12:33.865-05:00Well, at least there's some good news today. T...Well, at least there's some good news today. They're firing some of the principals that used Danielson to ruin our lives for the last number of months.<br />They'll all probably get better jobs by kissing ass like they've been doing under Bloomie, but at least they'll start to feel some of the anxiety they've been subjecting us to.<br />Interesting note to Chaz: Students that let their pants droop are doing it out of solidarity towards jailbirds, who aren't allowed to wear belts in prison. I got this from a corrections officer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-92220104771957288032012-03-02T20:59:48.101-05:002012-03-02T20:59:48.101-05:00Chaz: You have some ideas, but no one is listening...Chaz: You have some ideas, but no one is listening and Annon 10:05 pm has a point. <br />We need to get rid of the UFT one school at a time and negotiate for ourselves. The problem is who is going to do that for us?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-42235418545339857212012-03-02T18:06:43.876-05:002012-03-02T18:06:43.876-05:00Actually, in the days before the final solution, t...Actually, in the days before the final solution, the Nazis made the Polish dig their own graves. So there's that.NYCDOEnutshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10692665524124012171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-9993450764372833722012-03-02T06:24:15.977-05:002012-03-02T06:24:15.977-05:00At least the Nazi's were nice enough to supply...At least the Nazi's were nice enough to supply you with a shovel to dig your own grave. These motherfuckers want us to bring our own shovels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-36348972179009632512012-03-01T22:05:54.269-05:002012-03-01T22:05:54.269-05:00NYSUT didn't drop their lawsuit for nothing. A...NYSUT didn't drop their lawsuit for nothing. A deal has already been worked out-we just don't know the specifics. We do know that it is the end of any type of real tenure protections. 2 U ratings and PIP Plus and your out-period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-4083356034253270262012-03-01T19:43:13.905-05:002012-03-01T19:43:13.905-05:00Just my 2ç - wouldnt add any helpful suggestions,...Just my 2ç - wouldnt add any helpful suggestions, to the toxic stew that is value added measurements, no matter how well intentioned. it is all wrong, all unfair - why help them wage war against teachers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com