tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post7367865328261110362..comments2024-03-14T13:50:26.981-04:00Comments on Chaz's School Daze: Has The De Blasio Administration Found A Solution To The Retroactive Pay Issue?Chazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-10582333521460024402014-04-13T01:45:38.976-04:002014-04-13T01:45:38.976-04:00Do any of you know math? Just getting service cre...Do any of you know math? Just getting service credit will make your pension much lower because you are basing it on a lower amount. If the city wants it, it is NOT good for teachers. If you really want service credit, you want the 4% and 4% raises and then 2 years of credit. <br /><br />This is why teachers are treated like crap. <br /><br />THINK!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-65202257827910604472014-03-21T01:55:46.693-04:002014-03-21T01:55:46.693-04:00I am praying for this service credit buyout,I will...I am praying for this service credit buyout,I will be 54 in June and have 22 Years of Teaching Completed. I can only imagine how many Senior Teachers would get the heck out of this Insanity..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-36878756407845254422014-03-18T19:48:30.504-04:002014-03-18T19:48:30.504-04:00100% agree with you.
My husband, my colleagues and...100% agree with you.<br />My husband, my colleagues and I are sending our prayers up to heavens for SERVICE CREDIT. Smart move for the city to let us top earners retire earlier and hire two to three new pre-k teachers for the new programs for the price of one of us!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-20459346119700989762014-03-18T10:03:22.923-04:002014-03-18T10:03:22.923-04:00Praying for a three-year seniority bump! Even if ...Praying for a three-year seniority bump! Even if I couldn't collect until 55 (I'm 53), I'd take the deal and get out and I'm sure many other teachers would do the same.Mike S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-5370050102588542002014-03-17T21:49:07.684-04:002014-03-17T21:49:07.684-04:00Anon 9:17
I agree with you/ However. the numbers ...Anon 9:17<br /><br />I agree with you/ However. the numbers will need to be calculated and there's still other issues that need to be resolved.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-25537650062248415712014-03-17T21:17:26.324-04:002014-03-17T21:17:26.324-04:00I mean that there is a cost to the city to give ex...I mean that there is a cost to the city to give extra retirement credit. That cost can be calculated. Perhaps the dollar amount of the four or five year retirement credits is equal to a 4% salary raise. Then if this is granted the city would only have to come up with another 4% retroactive and that amount won't break the back of this year or next years budget. The 4% cost of the retirement credit is actually amortized over many years. The union can say that we got 4 and 4 while the city would only have to come up with half of that on a immediate basis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-50550621943949052202014-03-17T19:06:13.980-04:002014-03-17T19:06:13.980-04:00Can you explain what you mean here? This is a litt...Can you explain what you mean here? This is a little confusing. Thanks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-16781038676960237522014-03-17T17:45:14.990-04:002014-03-17T17:45:14.990-04:00If the city is allowed to give retirement credits ...If the city is allowed to give retirement credits instead of full retroactivity the union can claim that in actuality they are being made "whole" for the entire 4 and 4. The city for their part won't have to come up with the full retroactive money immediately so they too can claim a "victory."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-91488990480046540532014-03-17T17:39:32.648-04:002014-03-17T17:39:32.648-04:00I believe that the extra years of service credit w...I believe that the extra years of service credit will certainly be able to be used to attain the 25 years necessary to avoid a minus in the pension. This would allow people who are over 55 to retire with dignity.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-9019943214935161262014-03-17T10:58:09.673-04:002014-03-17T10:58:09.673-04:00I would think that the service credit would be bac...I would think that the service credit would be back ended and added on when you go to retire. I can't see it being given now and bumping so many people pass into new salary steps thus costing the city more money. I would assume it wont let you retire early unless you can't collect your pension until you hit age/time without the service credit.<br /><br />It would be nice if it was added on right now and you can retire using those years early <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-84836247058558334762014-03-14T23:10:42.829-04:002014-03-14T23:10:42.829-04:00If the city is even considering an offer like this...If the city is even considering an offer like this, my guess is their idea is for the service credit to apply as time towards retirement eligibility only. I don’t see them offering to allow it to move a teacher up on the salary steps. This would be a big win for them as it would move more senior teachers out of the system sooner cutting labor costs, while in addition lowering pension costs as teachers would be retiring at a lower final years salary step which I would imagine equals lower pensions. Of course this wonderful deal will arrive at the last possible moment attached to some sort of new evaluation agreement to help sell it. Can’t you just hear Mulgrew and all the Unity shills selling it as a win, and pressing hard for a quick vote or else we’ll miss our window to get the new evaluation agreement in place for September. Our union sucks and regardless of any intelligent discussion that might take place in an open forum like this, our leadership will once again snatch defeat and sell it as a win.Uitymustgo!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-36680058278757910392014-03-14T18:46:35.106-04:002014-03-14T18:46:35.106-04:00What do they have in store for us ATRs is what I w...What do they have in store for us ATRs is what I worry about. I don't trust them at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-40077074851579277812014-03-14T17:25:56.964-04:002014-03-14T17:25:56.964-04:00I would take service credit ANY DAY! They've ...I would take service credit ANY DAY! They've made teaching into a grueling profession. What do you think about the NYT article which says DiBlasio is pushing for a 9 year contract with the retro spanning that time? Is service credit out the window? I hope not! If we took a vote on this today--it will be service credit HANDS DOWN!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-11349125961331244482014-03-14T17:22:51.205-04:002014-03-14T17:22:51.205-04:00Yes, I would take service credit ANYDAY! Oh my go...Yes, I would take service credit ANYDAY! Oh my golly would I? They have made it impossible to have a normal life!<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05009494232668466419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-35648669480607089952014-03-14T16:29:34.447-04:002014-03-14T16:29:34.447-04:00http://ny.chalkbeat.org/2014/03/14/backpay-for-tea...http://ny.chalkbeat.org/2014/03/14/backpay-for-teachers-could-get-spread-out-over-nine-year-deal/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-77188157610649257722014-03-14T09:24:58.965-04:002014-03-14T09:24:58.965-04:00Is it not a shame that most educators want out of ...Is it not a shame that most educators want out of the dreadful corrupt DOE. Bloomberg can take credit for poisoning the doe and destroying the nyc teachers morale. Bloomberg is a real piece of crap as he transformed the doe to a miserable, trust no one organization with back stabbing employees pitting against one another. This is exactly what you would hear from bloomberg employees in the private business...unfortunately this scum method of business has been brought over to our livelihoods. Not sure if diblasio can change the bloomberg klein way of life, but if anyone can i thing at least we do have diblasio..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-6814056495311160102014-03-13T18:59:03.024-04:002014-03-13T18:59:03.024-04:00YES give me years to get out of this disgusting o...YES give me years to get out of this disgusting organization faster - get me out!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-41371128722292219352014-03-13T18:29:46.333-04:002014-03-13T18:29:46.333-04:00chaz, your the best when it comes to sniffing thes...chaz, your the best when it comes to sniffing these things out. Retirement city here I come.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-65103353895524874592014-03-13T17:27:08.075-04:002014-03-13T17:27:08.075-04:00they should put all these comments on the Post and...they should put all these comments on the Post and the Daily News so everyone can see how many of us want to get the hell out of this DOE. <br />So many out there complain how Good us teachers have it yet they wouldnt last 2 days in a classroom.<br />And isnt it strange if we would get an offer to add service credit years since the powers that be KNOW that most of us would take the years and run..run forrest run...GIVE ME THE SERVICE CREDIT thats my vote one day closer to leaving this mess behind is the way to go TIME IS SO VALUABLE Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-65285432851374739122014-03-13T16:33:19.557-04:002014-03-13T16:33:19.557-04:00I'm not that schooled in pension facts but rea... I'm not that schooled in pension facts but reading the NYPD blog that you have linked to your post - there were many people in their rank and file who believed that this was a pipe dream (I suggest readers actually take a look at many of the comments made by police officers in that rant). Again, I do not know the similarities between our pension system, the health of it as well as other factors and theirs. A commenter on the NYPD site also noted that one thing that was heard was a possible scenario in which the city may offer two years credit up front and then two or three years once we hit a certain age (I'm thinking 55 here.) If this is the case, it would disallow early retirement. Again, interesting things being discussed here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-13883915270038800692014-03-13T16:03:35.628-04:002014-03-13T16:03:35.628-04:00The idea of additional years as credit sounds very...The idea of additional years as credit sounds very positive to me. This is my tenth year in the system and am looking at another thirteen years till retirement. If a deal presents itself that will add four to five years of credit I would have no issue with forgoing money "owed." I would surely be highly interested in all other items, i.e, raises, and health care costs. I do not want to see health costs increase, but I do realize that everything has a price. I would pay something above zero for GHI. However, our raise must be substantial so that it all doesn't go back to the City and health care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-27225753789667090132014-03-13T14:28:27.168-04:002014-03-13T14:28:27.168-04:00I’ve noticed problems between the information war ...I’ve noticed problems between the information war currently being waged by Eva Moskowitz and Vladimir Putin’s propaganda attack on Ukraine. These two seem to follow the same playbook: prepare one’s own version of the truth, blast it loudly and repeatedly in friendly media outlets, ignore anyone who points out holes in your story.<br /><br />What I find particularly frightening is that these tactics work. There are millions of people out there who honestly believe that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is legitimate and desirable, as is Eva’s “invasion” of the NYC public school system. And, well reasoned bloggers like chaz seem to go unnoticed in the general public The balls of these two individuals is beyond human comprehension and I only have memories of such other tyrants in time such as sadam hussein, khadafy and even bin laden.....these insane maniacs were then thrown to the wolves and dragged around like a rake on the ball field to clear the dirtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-41301714630920457852014-03-13T09:40:53.697-04:002014-03-13T09:40:53.697-04:00I have 22 years in and would vote for almost anyth...I have 22 years in and would vote for almost anything that would allow me to leave early, and I think a lot of veteran teachers would do the same. My question is, if I'm in 55/25 and will now have 25 years (assuming a three-year "bump"), can I retire now? I'll be 53 and a half in September and I'm so fed up that I'd be willing to stock grocery shelves or drive a cab for 18 months as long as I know that I can start collecting on my 55th birthday. I guess all of these questions will be answered when we get a solid offer, but at least now we have some hope that we might be able to get out of Hell early!Mike Sherwoodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-18148878213611091912014-03-13T07:49:28.737-04:002014-03-13T07:49:28.737-04:00Very interesting idea but the city always has some...Very interesting idea but the city always has something up its sleave. Sounds like it may work but I would never trust the city after the 2005 contract and the atr and teacher evaluation crap!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-10447853001261540742014-03-13T06:18:19.586-04:002014-03-13T06:18:19.586-04:00It's a win-win for the city if it gets this: m...It's a win-win for the city if it gets this: more senior teachers out the door, and less money to younger/newer teachers who, because of CCSS/Danielson/the overall climate, will be purged or driven out before they qualify for a pension at all.<br /><br />And RBE is right: paying for health care will have us hitting the skids very soon.Michael Fiorillonoreply@blogger.com