tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post9159364312620876653..comments2024-03-14T13:50:26.981-04:00Comments on Chaz's School Daze: Bad News! No Retroactive Per Session Pay After All.Chazhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-51510349863157870412015-10-04T11:13:13.128-04:002015-10-04T11:13:13.128-04:00This turned out to be false propaganda hmmm... but...This turned out to be false propaganda hmmm... but it is still hereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-31299276530883082202014-10-07T22:28:40.931-04:002014-10-07T22:28:40.931-04:00Where's that October 3rd check?? I haven'...Where's that October 3rd check?? I haven't seen or heard anything about it? Do we know how far back they are going? I did a ton of per session in 2011, and was hoping to get some more back from that. I also subbed in 2010 for a few months, and since I have been a teacher for 5 years now in the city, they promised money back for that as well, just as long as you are still employed, PT or FT. Anyone know anything? Thanks!!!!!BENAZZInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-60904716543130542962014-08-27T20:45:55.394-04:002014-08-27T20:45:55.394-04:00Retro checks for salary will be in sept 30 check a...Retro checks for salary will be in sept 30 check and per session retro are being sent out October third. This is all info coming from citywide UFT Meetings today and also expect your rating in an email on Tuesday.... Get ready for the fun to begin lolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-36055733660623647342014-08-25T18:33:39.170-04:002014-08-25T18:33:39.170-04:00JD2718
What happen to the money owed us for 2013-...JD2718<br /><br />What happen to the money owed us for 2013-14? Still no check for the retro.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-81499579658244570002014-08-25T11:01:30.629-04:002014-08-25T11:01:30.629-04:00Top pay increases in the same period from 100049 t...Top pay increases in the same period from 100049 to 102060, exactly the same percentage.<br /><br />Per session sees the same 18% (actually 19.4% compounded) that every other payment on the schedules sees.<br /><br />The retro lump sums are irrelevant to this (<a href="http://jd2718.org/2014/07/24/why-the-fuss-over-retroactive-pay/" rel="nofollow">more here</a>). The "retro increases" come later in the contract, as with the salary increases.<br /><br />I know the leadership has been confusing on this. It's tough to follow. But there's nothing about per session that's different from any other part of the monetary settlement.<br /><br />JonathanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-34848143571857477972014-08-23T11:38:26.631-04:002014-08-23T11:38:26.631-04:00I have a questions separate from the per session i...I have a questions separate from the per session issue. When and how will teachers receive the 1% from 2013 and the 1% from 2014 retro lump sums? I see very few mention of this anywhere and I am afraid it will be forgotten about!History Tuneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06449281751907120020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-18934547308292942442014-08-23T08:20:46.489-04:002014-08-23T08:20:46.489-04:00Chaz,
Yes, I do share the frustration about not s...Chaz,<br /><br />Yes, I do share the frustration about not seeing any adjustment checks for the 2013-2014 retro payments yet. (They haven't been issued for teacher salary either, as far as I know...)B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-21687882452165205282014-08-23T08:02:28.712-04:002014-08-23T08:02:28.712-04:00n 7:54
I understand what your saying. Regardless ...n 7:54<br />I understand what your saying. Regardless the per session rate should have increased to reflect the 10%. Furthermore, the lack of a supplemental check for previous 2013-14 retro payments for per session pay shows how the City is not abiding by the contract.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-9785581140645483892014-08-23T07:54:23.092-04:002014-08-23T07:54:23.092-04:00Chaz,
Sorry if I was unclear, but I was agreeing ...Chaz,<br /><br />Sorry if I was unclear, but I was agreeing that the 2013-2014 retro payments have to be paid out as adjustment checks, either as a lump sum or over time (e.g. over the summer, like you suggest). What I don't understand is how any retro payment (not a retro _raise_) could be incorporated into a higher hourly pay rate, which you seem to be claiming it should have been. Then the amount of retro payment you receive would depend on how many per session hours you work in the coming years, not on how much you worked during the period that the retro pay is intended to cover.B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-22115638651831456872014-08-22T14:41:49.404-04:002014-08-22T14:41:49.404-04:00B:
How do you figure that? If you look at the ch...B:<br /><br />How do you figure that? If you look at the chart the 2013-14 retro should be paid upfront. To me that means it should be included in the summer per session pay or as a separate adjustment check. <br /><br /><br />Moreover, how about the non-retro portion of the two 4% raises.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-68063448893597740652014-08-22T09:57:58.339-04:002014-08-22T09:57:58.339-04:00I don't understand how a retro payment can be ...I don't understand how a retro payment can be incorporated into a later hourly rate. It can only be paid out as a lump sum, otherwise those who don't work per session this coming year wouldn't get any retro pay at all. So why would one expect to see the hourly per session rate increase more than the 1%+1%?B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-11853580618212253602014-08-21T05:43:25.133-04:002014-08-21T05:43:25.133-04:00Chaz, Greetings!
Per Session rate calculations
2...Chaz, Greetings!<br /><br />Per Session rate calculations<br /><br />2013 - 41.98 times 1.01 = 42.40<br />2014 - 42.40 times 1.01 = 42.82<br /><br />42.82 is the new rate.<br />42.82/41.98 = 1.020100 <br /><br />Based on contact information the <br />salary rate and per session rate should increase at the same time<br />at rate increases shown on the contract timeline for the years 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018.<br /><br />Are you suggesting that the 8%<br />retroactive rate should have been<br />included in the current rate for<br />per session? How is that consistent with the contract rate increase time line.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-33912638551627001532014-08-17T16:22:17.473-04:002014-08-17T16:22:17.473-04:00What about retro pay for Per Diems?
We pay union d...What about retro pay for Per Diems?<br />We pay union dues twice; once for pension pymt's and then as subs... At least now I know that the per session work that I did before retiring is something that I won't get.Jerome'smomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12601222800279335033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-1573885024199427872014-08-16T19:51:37.305-04:002014-08-16T19:51:37.305-04:00Chaz do not forget members who have done coverages...Chaz do not forget members who have done coverages during the same five year period. You may want to add them to your list of members Mulgrew shortchanged. I have many coverage slips during this period of time and if the per session barely went up then the coverage rate would most likely not go up much either. Thank you UFT for screwing middle class workers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-81815063217153209892014-08-16T19:31:43.277-04:002014-08-16T19:31:43.277-04:00Good work Chaz in reminding the members of that ch...Good work Chaz in reminding the members of that chart which says every dollar will be paid by 2020. I hope this can be used in a future lawsuit against the union and city. Misrepresenting back pay is atrocious. At the time a red flag was not releasing the MOA until the day before the delegate assembly vote. I hope members look back in hindsight and realize they should have voted NO to this poorly negotiated contract. We support you Chaz and I truly hope your hard work and our comments will make a difference against dishonest behavior by the union and city.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-50854278621431569932014-08-16T15:30:00.209-04:002014-08-16T15:30:00.209-04:00I worked July 1-31 and got the 42.82 amount. Howev...I worked July 1-31 and got the 42.82 amount. However, I also worked per session on June 27 and 30-and it had the old 41.98 amount. I have a feeling the city will mail all retro per session payments owed from May 1, 2013 to April 30, 2013 at the 42.40 rate and 42.82 amount from May 1, 2014 to June 30, 2014. No retro per session from '09 to April 30 2013.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-70265012469596923152014-08-16T13:28:16.776-04:002014-08-16T13:28:16.776-04:00Wait a min. The new per session rate increased 84 ...Wait a min. The new per session rate increased 84 cents to 42.82?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-64170025817888456492014-08-16T12:57:06.457-04:002014-08-16T12:57:06.457-04:00Anon 11:03
If I see the retros are incorporated i...Anon 11:03<br /><br />If I see the retros are incorporated in the paycheck then and only then will I walk it back. So far, I see no retros and the per session pay rate should have incorporated the 2013 and 2014 retros but they didn't.Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-72656702938666144112014-08-16T12:03:02.531-04:002014-08-16T12:03:02.531-04:00Chaz, you did a great job in pointing this out. L...Chaz, you did a great job in pointing this out. Like the ratings sheets being bungled in June I hope this gets worked out in the members favor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-31598266212289996222014-08-16T11:03:56.384-04:002014-08-16T11:03:56.384-04:00Nobody got those retro payments yet. I really like...Nobody got those retro payments yet. I really like your blog but you might have to walk this one back a little in the end.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-43433822955878211032014-08-16T09:59:03.783-04:002014-08-16T09:59:03.783-04:00I just read that "our" union is backing ...I just read that "our" union is backing a Sharpton anti-police rally and march. Did anyone ask the members their opinion? Want to stop tragedies in the street? Start by truly educating the poor. How about marching for that? Instead the DOE/UFT put totally inexperienced bodies in front of a class, while experienced teachers are forced to babysit. Bronx ATRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08787717237141454628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-71790146851683820862014-08-16T09:37:56.420-04:002014-08-16T09:37:56.420-04:00Anon 11:34
If you remember, the UFT chart sent to...Anon 11:34<br /><br />If you remember, the UFT chart sent to the members showed that the 2% raise will include the 2013 and 2014 retro payments. What changed?Chazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09964739497720364749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-88443607347695749162014-08-16T06:20:46.283-04:002014-08-16T06:20:46.283-04:00I went to ICEUFT to read the delegate assembly rep...I went to ICEUFT to read the delegate assembly report from earlier this year (February 2014). If you look under the contracts section of the article Mulgrew said we have already earned the money that Bloomberg should have given us years ago. This begs the question Mr. Mulgrew. Why did you back load the 4% and 4% and lump sum payments so far into the future if you felt that way in February? Sounds like to me that lawsuit by the ex members has a real good chance of winning. They should read what Mulgrew said earlier in the year. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-20273171430388321202014-08-16T06:13:46.342-04:002014-08-16T06:13:46.342-04:00Mulgrew was not honest about other things either. ...Mulgrew was not honest about other things either. During the previous school year at the delegate assembly meetings Mulgrew mentioned MANY LAWSUITS the union had against the city. These lawsuits I believe related to abuses under Bloomberg. Back in January of this year Mulgrew said at the delegate meeting that he would sit down with the new administration and settle these cases. I am sure some of these lawsuits involved abuses in the school system (like SESIS). Sounds like Mulgrew drop these lawsuits as a favor to DeBlasio like the contract.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20674128.post-21814747815609642862014-08-15T23:34:04.811-04:002014-08-15T23:34:04.811-04:00Your pay is only 2% higher too. This post is pure...Your pay is only 2% higher too. This post is pure speculation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com