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Sunday, February 25, 2018
Will The DOE Protect "F" Status Field Supervisors From ATR Lawsuits? Maybe Or Maybe Not.
It has come to my attention that a teacher, who became an ATR, filed a lawsuit against the Principal and the Principal's Advisor. Of course the Principal was protected as a DOE employee from personal liability. However, the DOE appointed advisor was not an active employee but was defined as a consultant. The result was the Principal's advisor was not protected by the DOE from liability. The result was the consultant had to hire his own lawyer on his own dime. Moreover, he ended up paying the teacher $25,000 and his own lawyer as well..
This brings me to the field supervisors (assassins). Most of the field supervisors are retired Principals or Assistant principals. The are hired on an "F" status basis and are considered contract employees. Therefore, its possible that if the ATR, who feels they were unjustly evaluated by one of these "F" status field supervisors, if the ATR files a lawsuit its possible that the "F" status field supervisor would not be protected from liability by the DOE. If that is the case, then the "F" status field supervisor would have to hire their own lawyer.
I cannot say for sure that is the case, but based on the Bronx case it might be worth the effort to sue the "F" status field supervisor and see if the DOE decides to protect them. Ir the DOE does not protect them from liability, the result would be the eventual elimination of the "F" status field supervisors since the money they receive is not worth the risk of a lawsuit.
Justin Stark deserves to lose h8s license.
ReplyDeleteJustin Stark Is now an AP and is protected by the DOE as an active employee. He was never an "F" status field supervisor.
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ReplyDeleteIn the nyshitty doe a teacher needs to jump through this many hoops to try to right a wrong! Another reason the nycdoe cannot attract the best and brightest.
ReplyDeleteAny ATR that’s being harassed should sue the ATR hit squad. The DOE isn’t going to bat for a part time lackeys.
ReplyDeleteThe F status employee was considered not a employee of the DOE. Now what does this mean for per diem teachers, and long term subs? These three categories are all lumped together when discussing pay structure and benefits. I called the NYC conflict of interest board last year and spoke to their attorney and he said a person has to to work 40 days during the academic year be considered an employee of the DOE. Now has that changed? If this is the new ruling, then this would definitely have consequences for conflict of interest issues. You can not work for a private agency who does business with the NYCDOE if you were an employee of the DOE unless you wait one year from the last date of employment. You can not work in any capacity until the year has passed. These agencies interpret substitute teaching as being an employee of the DOE (which I have my own ideas about because you incur nothing except a paycheck as a sub so that really does not make you an employee like everyone else at the DOE) and will not hire you unless you wait the year. So please cite this case so we can get clarity on this matter. If you have any thought, please let us know.
ReplyDeleteChaz, was this an out-of-court settlement, judicial decision, or jury verdict?
ReplyDeleteIf a judicial decision, can you provide a link?
Here's an interesting judicial decision involving a teacher who sued a principal for libel:
www.leagle.com/decision/197552982misc2d4471406
So the principal and other doe employees are protected under the doctrine of absolute immunity if they are acting within the scope of their official duty.
ReplyDeleteIn order to overcome that privilege malice must be shown.
And in thus case it said that they did have evidence of malice.
Wow this case goes back to 1975. Is it that rare to sue the administrator?
Former Teacher- you're right, you do get a paycheck, but you also accrue "city time". So if you get another city job, you can use those sub days (after you buy them back) towards your retirement. It may not be much, but it's something.
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ReplyDeleteNo, in the McAulay case, the principal was not entitled to absolute immunity (a.k.a. "absolute privilege").
The principal was entitled to qualified privilege.
To overcome qualified privilege, malice must be shown.
It's not all that rare for NYC teachers to sue school administrators.
Some of these judicial decisions are quite interesting:
www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=principal+teacher+libel+"New+York"&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=leagle.com&as_occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=
can you resign, and sub and buy back the time before retirement?
ReplyDeleteDiane Ludvigsen, retired NYCDOE administrator and hired hand.....this ones for you bitch!
ReplyDeleteThanks Chaz...very good.
Anon 3"36
ReplyDeleteYers. Subbing counts toward pension credits.
after resigning is what i need clarification.
ReplyDeletecan i resign at 20 years- sub 15 till 55 and buy back to get my 30/55 without penalty?
Word is the Single Shephard program is filled with lies and false data entry. For those not "inflating and lying" repercussions, such as, U-ratings are being given. These students have attendance issues. The word is out that ATRs are filing a class aciton lawsuit. It should not only be for ATRs. Age discrimination and being treated differently is rampid. Those that 'qualify' should join in.
ReplyDeleteSubbing is part time and even 15 years won't get you 10 years credit. Furthermore, the 30/55 is for full time members.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Anon 5:21. The age discrimination lawsuit shouldn't be only for ATTs. There's lots if us who are being age discriminated and we're not ATRs.
ReplyDeleteI want to join the lawsuit too.
Sue everyone. Everyone should just sue everyone. Let's see what happens.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately you can’t sue the UFT. My AP best friend tried after Hinds publicly insulted him. He spent 10 grand.
DeleteHigher ups are well aware of the ATR lawsuit from the rumblings surfacing. The union and DOE are getting a double punch to the dome with Janus and the ATR class action. Regular appointed teachers should file a class action discrimination suit as well. So the DOE also receives a punch to the gut.
ReplyDeleteThe abuse and harassment of ATRs by Field Supervisors should be part of the lawsuit.
Delete@6:36PM - Check out the February 17, 2018 entry in this blog. Contact the lawyer BEFORE 2/28/2018 and ask to join. If not, perhaps there could be another class action for those that are not ATRs. Rise for labor rights.
ReplyDelete@7:23PM - You're just a lawsuit happy!
Age discrimination is alive and well for a New York City teacher. Has anyone ever gotten highly effective on an ob if you”re 50 and over? How many teachers 50 and over even get effective on obs? For 50 and over teachers, Developing is the “new effective”. For example: I went for a pension consult and 4 other teachers were waiting for their consults. I asked them if they wouldn’t mind sharing their ob results with me. They said to me let’s not waste time on it because they had 20 years and their careers were ended from their obs/ ratings.
ReplyDelete* To Answer Per diem sub time. You need blocks of 85 days equals a term to to gain sub time. In a month like March and other months with hardly or no days off, you can be rest assured that you will be working every day.
that you will be called everyday.
Who dreads going back to school tomorrow, please raise your hand?
ReplyDeletehttps://www.nystrs.org/NYSTRS/media/PDF/Library/Publications/Active%20Members/YouDeserveTheCredit.pdf
ReplyDeleteThis is the table for gaining credit in the pension system with subbing. This is different than gaining credit for salary step credit.
Dwarka continues to go after experienced teachers, her statistics show how she ran the school to the ground.
ReplyDeleteWhat was the lawsuit?
ReplyDeleteField Supervisors are harassing ATRs, and the Union is looking the other way.
ReplyDeleteDiane Ludvigsen is a stupid piece of her garbage and that doesn’t even take into account her 80s frosted Dallas style hair and hideous wardrobe
ReplyDeleteThe Union is to be blamed on the discrimination going on on experienced teachers.
ReplyDeleteDiane Ludvigsen makes Justin Stark look like a rocket scientist.
ReplyDeleteThe Union has allowed for this harassment of ATRs but many lawsuits will follow.
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